Mr. George P. McLeer, Jr.

Masters Degree? Depends...

Posted by Mr. George P. McLeer, Jr., Apr 01, 2013 4 comments


Mr. George P. McLeer, Jr.

George Patrick McLeer George Patrick McLeer

“Are you thinking about getting your Masters?”

Every time I’m asked that question, my brain has a dilemma. On one hand, I love learning as much information as I can about my field and anything that relates to it. I take what Malcolm Gladwell told Charlie Rose about the key to great journalism to heart—“It’s about teaching yourself that everything is interesting.”

And I love the classroom setting—well I should say the right classroom setting, but that’s another story. I would much rather write a 20-page paper on charitable tax policy or how to engage young people, than attend another City Council meeting or board meeting some days.

But on the other hand, why would I go back to school? I’m a young professional with the world at my fingertips; I’ve got a pretty great job and on top of all that, my undergraduate degree was in Arts Management—so unless I wanted to specialize in something very specific like Arts Policy or Arts Education, I don’t need to sit in a classroom and learn about mission statements, 990s, grants, marketing, etc, from the beginning all over again.

Sure I’d love to learn more about those things—I haven’t found the magic potion to make a perfect arts organization (yet…maybe a Chemistry class?)—but as it stands right now, I have a better chance of making an impact by staying out of the classroom than going back into it.

The other question I used to get when I was in college was, “Where are you looking to work?” No doubt, most folks hear “the arts” and think NYC, DC, Chicago, LA, Atlanta, Seattle and other locations. But for me, my answer was, “I’m staying here in South Carolina.” 

Here’s my theory—and spoiler alert…there’s no one solution to this either. The real reason I’m not considering going back to school for a Masters is because of what my career goal is and where I can accomplish it.

I remember telling people that, “I’m not going to NYC unless they come to me and offer a six-figure salary.” That obviously wouldn’t have happened (I’m still open to it though Mr. or Mrs. NYC-based-company-with-200k-to-spare).

I knew that out of the new pool of young professionals in the arts world graduating with undergraduate degrees and graduate degrees in the arts, many of them were flocking to major metropolitan areas and looking to land a job at some of the major institutions. And you know what, that’s great. To work for organizations like the Lincoln Center, LACMA, The Met, BAM and others is a huge honor, an exciting endeavor and one that makes a resume scream. Some people thrive in that type of environment, prefer to be in a huge city, and prefer to perfect their skills in a structured industry-environment.

While in college, I looked at the field of arts management and the arts industry as a whole and I realized that for me, personally, I wanted to go to work in a geographical region I knew I could have the most impact. I wanted to be somewhere that a recent college graduate in arts management had a fighting chance to not only get a job, but to get a job that allowed him/her to make a difference almost immediately.

Whether I was going to be an Executive Director or a Development Assistant, I felt that the length of time from starting a job to having my ideas put to work was going to be shorter here than anywhere else. While I would not be working with Yo-Yo Ma in my prospective job, I would be working with local musicians and pioneering ways to change my community. While my organization’s name may not make my resume scream, the amount of experience I was looking to gain in my first year would.

I treated my education like a new bicycle—I wanted to test it out right away, I didn’t want to keep tweaking it for another two to three years. I wanted to get out there and test my education and my confidence. I wanted to have my ideas and my theories become real and not just a class project. I wanted to make mistakes that had consequences and I wanted to have successes that made a noticeable difference. I wanted to take this proverbial bike and ride it around my town—stopping to fix it up every now and then, but making it and myself stronger along the way. And I wanted to do that right away.

I think that whether or not you want to get a graduate degree is entirely up to you, but people should look around and ask themselves two questions first—“What do I want to do with my career?” and “Where can I do it?”

Do you want to focus on changing the entire industry, improve your art discipline from the administrative side out, change your local community, create your own organization, or something else?

You may find that you do in fact need a Masters degree. If you want to change the entire Broadway landscape and you want to do it in NYC, you’re either going to have to work your way up for a good number of years, or you’re going to need a Masters to really be qualified for a leadership position sooner. You’ll be able to find yourself amongst some of the best in the business, legendary artists and innovative thinkers. And that’s pretty cool.

Or you may find that your skills and your passion are best suited for a slightly smaller geographical setting and you don’t need a Masters degree. Then you might be able to work your way up quicker, see your ideas come to fruition sooner and gain really great experience.

You might not have the all-glass corner office, or produce the next Tony-award winning play, or get the Picasso exhibit to come to your facility—but your arts management skills will have changed a community and the people that live there. And that’s pretty cool too.

Then again, there’s a third option that very few people get to have: extreme luck. If you have that, then you can ignore this whole thing.

(Editor's Note: This post was originally published on GPMcLeer.org on March 25, 2013.)

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April 01, 2013 at 11:23 am

George, thanks for your thoughtful post. The question "What do I want to do with my career" is of course key, and SNAAP (Strategic National Arts Alumni Project) data provide some insight into the difference that a master's degree can make on your career path - that is, if you want to be a professional artist.

Based on the 33,000 arts graduates who responded to our survey in Fall 2011, 86% of respondents with master's degrees have worked as professional artists versus 71% of those whose highest degree is a bachelor's. A 15% difference is significant.

As far as arts administration undergrad majors are concerned - not surprisingly, along with art history majors, you are "least likely to work as a professional artist."

See the SNAAP Annual Report 2012: http://snaap.indiana.edu/pdf/2012/2012_Annual_Report.pdf

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GP says
April 01, 2013 at 7:07 pm

Sally -

Thanks for reading! I would expect a higher percentage of graduate students to go work as a professional artist as a Masters typically signifies a more defined career goal - if you're getting a Masters in Composition, we can safely assume you're going to pursue that as a career.

But as I found to be true with many of my fellow undergraduate classmates, after a BA in ARTM, you have a wide-breadth of options, not just in the arts but in the for- and non-profit sectors - artist management, recording labels, government, hospitality, etc. And with a BA, you are more likely to be open to changing your career path then most people with a Masters.

I also never wanted to be a professional artist - I'm a musician and actor at heart, but a chair in the symphony was never my goal. From day one I wanted to be an arts manager. I love working with artists and helping build frameworks that let their art flourish and creating environments where the community can experience the arts.

I don't believe the success, as measured by SNAAP in that example, of every arts management student (undergrad or grad) should be measured by whether or not they were a professional artist, unless that was a question for people who specified their goal was to become a professional artist. I do not want my success tied to whether or not I was ever a professional artist, because I do not desire to be one. Of course, I'd love to be a rock star or be "discovered" by Martin Scorcese, who wouldn't - but my career goal is off the stage, not on it.

The message of this post is really to point out what everyone always ends up saying - going to graduate school is not a uniform decision in this industry, it is entirely up to you personally and based on a number of factors. I just propose that people ask two questions, "What is my career goal?" and "Where can I achieve it?" when looking into graduate school. I made the decision not to go, but others may decide they should - either way is great.

Thanks for reading and commenting! The SNAAP Survey is a great tool to use in general, I've participated every year since I graduated.

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Whitney Roux says
April 01, 2013 at 1:15 pm

George,
This is a great post, but I think having an undergraduate degree in arts management is rare.
I personally majored in advertising and graphic designed and later realized that I wanted to work in the nonprofit sector. I agree that you can use the work place as a way to attain education but like most people I don't work in a mature structured organization. I work for an infantile arts real estate project in San Diego and my Masters in Arts Admin from Drexel (shout out!) gave me both theoretical and practical skills that help my organization to develop.
I find you post slightly ironic, considering the debate is often about formal education in arts administration which is what you have- so why would you get a masters in it? Your post makes sense for you, but for those who come from an arts making, business or any other background Arts Admin Master degrees provide skills and networks needed to survive the sector.

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GP says
April 01, 2013 at 7:28 pm

Hey Whitney -

Thanks for reading and commenting!

You're right in that a masters in purely Arts Admin would not have been a path for me to take given the undergrad experience, but you'd be surprised how many people in the field still ask me this question. And like I said, part of me would love to get back in there and learn more, particularly Arts Policy as that's something I'm passionate about. But you definitely hit the nail on the head when you said this was the best choice for me - that's kind of the point I'm trying to make. Deciding whether or not to pursue a masters is wholly a personal choice. I don't think there should be a definitive "yes" or "no" answer to the question. Among reasons such as undergrad experience, career path desired, passion for a particular area, personal choice, and many more, I just propose that people ask two other questions "What is my career path?" and "Where can I achieve it?".

These two questions were the ones that guided me, so I thought I would share them and explain them.

Thanks again for reading and giving feedback! And good luck with your organization - I love those kinds of arts organizations and am fascinated by what they can do for a city and artists. Can't wait for that model to catch fire across the nation!

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